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Getting completely creamed out there! :)[message #288388] Thu, 04 August 2011 19:53 Go to next message
Kemor is currently offline Kemor

 
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Evening folks, ladies.

For the past couple of days, I've been stuck in some kind of loophole with 1.13, restarting over, and over, and over, and over, and yet I just can't figure out what to do better. Love this game, but total randomness is starting to kill it...

First time out there, I went with 1 AIM (deputy/athletic) and Fox and the dumb soviet guy with the repair box. Helicopter landed, dropped bags and started taking positions, only to have AIM merc AND the dumb soviet head shotted by a noob recruit with a handgun at 16 tiles distance while I couldn't hit anything at 5 tiles distance with a H&K SMG even with increased aim (took 3 shot!!), max DEX, AGI and 75 MRKSMAN.

Went: "ooook"...and started again....and again..and again...

2 days later, I learned a lot, but still can't handle much. Heck, I even started with 6 AIMs, ultra specialised, all capped out gunners and yet, random recruit noob still cap me at INSANE range (I'm talking like 20 tiles away, throught a window, while I'm kneeled) with the lamest of all guns while I can't hit anything further than 10 tiles away with a reliable chance with a Colt MK4.

I know that sometimes, since they have more troops, it "seems" they hit more. But I swear I've been taking every single shot possible with my own guns and if something is past "range", I just never hit, doesn't happen (or hit someone when they are packed or something)

The good news is that I learned the hard way to use terrain, have always a team mate cover, tag-partner to move forward and retreat but these guns hitting for insane range is just..stupid (I don't mind when it's rifle, etc, but for some reason, I handle that better!)

So, my question is: why are enemies able to hit from so far away with lame guns, heck, how come they can even shoot at something that far!? Anything can be done about it (even tweaking mod/ini itself)?

Cheers Smile

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Re: Getting completely creamed out there! :)[message #288390] Thu, 04 August 2011 19:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Logisteric

 
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welcome to the pit

the 'dumb soviet guy with the repair box' is actually polish and hates communists

try deactivating ncth in the options-menu


dumb soviet guy with the toolbox
Something stinks. Maybe is Ivan? All his people have stench of tyranny.

dumb soviet guy with the toolbox
If you find me dead with a knife in my back, I tell you now it is Igor. He is treacherous.

dumb soviet guy with the toolbox
No, no, no, you have Igor Dolvich on team. I sooner work with Germans.

dumb soviet guy with the toolbox
You want Ivan on your team? Then you DON'T want ME. I would stay behind if I had known you would let him to join.

dumb soviet guy with the toolbox
I do not work with Communist like Igor. I stick to contract, but after that, if Igor still here, I make thought to leave.


[Updated on: Thu, 04 August 2011 20:04] by Moderator

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Re: Getting completely creamed out there! :)[message #288391] Thu, 04 August 2011 20:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kemor is currently offline Kemor

 
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My bad, just love his dumbness Smile

And it was the very first thing I did even before loading my first 1.13 :/

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Re: Getting completely creamed out there! :)[message #288392] Thu, 04 August 2011 20:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Logisteric

 
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okay lets follow the protocol

1. what EXACTLY are you playing
2. on what os (just in case)

i know no1 should be vanilla (from your choice of sub-forum, obviously), but you did mention stomp-traits (they don't exist in vanilla)

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Re: Getting completely creamed out there! :)[message #288393] Thu, 04 August 2011 20:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gorro der Grüne is currently offline Gorro der Grüne

 
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Gontariski is from Poland and hates Russians

Disable NCTH in the ini

Yes they always are brilliant with crappy guns, In vanilla it was easier to take the Omerta garrison down hand to hand and spare ammo. You could also practise some stealing.

Welcome to the pit, take a shovel and help excavating it.

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Re: Getting completely creamed out there! :)[message #288394] Thu, 04 August 2011 20:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kemor is currently offline Kemor

 
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Logisteric
okay lets follow the protocol

1. what EXACTLY are you playing
2. on what os (just in case)

i know no1 should be vanilla (from your choice of sub-forum, obviously), but you did mention stomp-traits (they don't exist in vanilla)


Hmm, the latest 1.13, just downloaded it couple days ago and installed it over JA2 Gold pack. Playing on Windows 7.


I disabled the New CTH thing in the preferences (in-game) but couldn't find anything specific in the INI files.

And yes, yes, sorry, he's NOT russian...

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Re: Getting completely creamed out there! :)[message #288395] Thu, 04 August 2011 20:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gorro der Grüne is currently offline Gorro der Grüne

 
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so they moved it from the ini good

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Re: Getting completely creamed out there! :)[message #288396] Thu, 04 August 2011 20:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Logisteric

 
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set the infiltration time to 7200 (seconds) and try again

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Re: Getting completely creamed out there! :)[message #288409] Fri, 05 August 2011 00:16 Go to previous message
Kemor is currently offline Kemor

 
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Well, I just tried with 1 AIM having gunslinger and ambi/athle, then Fox and Grunt (or something).

Fox (already had noticed before she was badass) and my AIM totally rocked the casba! Head shots after head shots, low AP cost, from 15ish tiles away, light load and apparently you can put scopes on these insane guns too Smile

Sooo, new plan! 4 AIMs with guns/explosif, 2 AIMs with AR for suppression fire/grenade

Can't beat them, join them! Smile

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