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Re: Good news or not? Ja3 beeing developed by bitcomposer[message #258588] Fri, 06 August 2010 20:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Alpern is currently offline Alpern
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Hey guys! I'm a big Jagged Alliance fan, and I wondered if any of you had noticed that BitComposer has changed the Jaggedalliance.com website? It has a banner that says "Jagged Alliance Online" and says they'll be at GamesCom in Cologne, which appears to be in a couple of weeks.

What's Jagged Alliance Online?

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Re: Good news or not? Ja3 beeing developed by bitcomposer[message #258672] Sat, 07 August 2010 17:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kaerar is currently offline Kaerar

 
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 That's anyone's guess Alpern Wink

Hoping it will stay true to JA Series IP, but ya never know, look what happened with the Far Cry IP...

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Re: Good news or not? Ja3 beeing developed by bitcomposer[message #259363] Fri, 13 August 2010 10:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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 It doesn't say "Under construction". So this is it. Finally a no-mouse-click-site. Compliments.

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Re: Good news or not? Ja3 beeing developed by bitcomposer[message #259370] Fri, 13 August 2010 13:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
RyoSaeba is currently offline RyoSaeba

 
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Assuming that gamigo is related to a ton of Free to play Korean MMORPGs, I fear the most.

http://www.gamigo.com/

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Re: Good news or not? Ja3 beeing developed by bitcomposer[message #259374] Fri, 13 August 2010 14:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Luppolo is currently offline Luppolo

 
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doesn't "free to play Korean" mean "pay to be uber"?

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Re: Good news or not? Ja3 beeing developed by bitcomposer[message #259376] Fri, 13 August 2010 14:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
TwwIX is currently offline TwwIX

 
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 It's a real shame that this series is not receiving the respect that it deserves. It's one of the first games i bought for my first PC, along with Half-Life.It's a classic that's on par with the original Fallout games yet none of the well established developers and publishers will touch it. Instead, it's being kicked from one shitty studio to another with no end in sight. What a shame.

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Re: Good news or not? Ja3 beeing developed by bitcomposer[message #259397] Fri, 13 August 2010 19:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
7h30n is currently offline 7h30n

 
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I don't know if this has been already posted, but here it is (again?)

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=389669

If you don't wanna read the whole thing, I'm just gonna quote the most important one:

"The german gaming podcast spieleveteranen received an email by Wolfgang Duhr from bitComposer in which he revealed that bitComposer is currently working on 3 Jagged Alliance games namely a remake, a sequel and an online game."

I found the interview here:

http://www.pcgames.de/Jagged-Alliance-3-PC-16577/News/Jagged-Alliance-3-Jagged-Alliance-2-Remake-und-Browsergame-in-Arbeit-Exklusiv-Interview-mit-bitComposer-745250/

And it seems its really old, how I missed this ?!

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Re: Good news or not? Ja3 beeing developed by bitcomposer[message #265047] Tue, 19 October 2010 00:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
storytime is currently offline storytime

 
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 100% Guaranteed to be dumbed down or your money back.

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Re: Good news or not? Ja3 beeing developed by bitcomposer[message #265057] Tue, 19 October 2010 01:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
sorca_2 is currently offline sorca_2

 
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 Dumbed down compared to vanilla or 1.13--that's the question. Honestly, I don't have a problem with it being at the approximate complexity level of vanilla JA2 as long as it's moddable. The tragedy would be if it was dumbed down compared to vanilla JA2 and there was no direct mod support.

From a marketing standpoint, there have been so many games that have come out since JA2 (including 1.13) that it would be a huge missed opportunity not to take the best elements from some of them. There are so many opportunities to enhance the RPG elements of JA that it's ridiculous. I think the best improvement would be incorporating all of the complexities of JA2+1.13+the last 12 years of gaming into one elegant interface that doesn't require a bigger hotkey map than a nuclear submarine and is accessible to the first-time player--even if that means some features are turned off by default. Think about Civilization. Appropriate documentation, tutorials, in-game help, and tooltips/hints/suggestions would go a long way. The established user support base is already sitting right here.

No new developer will be able to appease the "if it's 3D, it's not JA" crowd if they want mainstream success. But, if they approach it as a modern military strategy game with a Civilization-level complexity, competitive and co-op multiplayer, and mod support... they could easily have a sleeper Game of the Year contender like Portal. I believe that's true untapped potential of JA as a concept.

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Re: Good news or not? Ja3 beeing developed by bitcomposer[message #265217] Wed, 20 October 2010 15:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Zarax

 
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 Guys...

Check their newsletter:


Jagged Alliance 2: Reloaded - Discussion: Turn-based combat system 2011


We would love to receive your suggestions and ideas for a modern, turn-based combat system for Jagged Alliance 2: Reloaded. What do you think a modern version of such a combat system should look like? What is wrong with the existing JA2 combat system, what annoys you about it and what must be retained without fail?
We look forward to hearing your proposals, suggestions and ideas.
=list_post&tx_mmforum_pi1[tid]=101]Check their forum here (link edited by Shanga)



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Re: Good news or not? Ja3 beeing developed by bitcomposer[message #265314] Thu, 21 October 2010 08:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
usrbid is currently offline usrbid

 
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Posted there a bunch of stuff I didn't see people talk about yet. My user name on the German forum is usrbid.

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Re: Good news or not? Ja3 beeing developed by bitcomposer[message #266326] Fri, 05 November 2010 12:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
JP'TR is currently offline JP'TR

 
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 oh wrong Thread, i saw its allready postetd so nevermind.

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Re: Good news or not? Ja3 beeing developed by bitcomposer[message #266327] Fri, 05 November 2010 12:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Shadow21 is currently offline Shadow21

 
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 i just threw up

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Re: Good news or not? Ja3 beeing developed by bitcomposer[message #266790] Sat, 13 November 2010 00:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gunjack is currently offline Gunjack

 
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 they killed the turn-based mode -.-

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Re: Good news or not? Ja3 beeing developed by bitcomposer[message #266921] Mon, 15 November 2010 14:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mauser is currently offline Mauser

 
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 no turn based means no Jagged Alliance, period!

they may try out something else with JA3, maybe make turn based mode optional to pausable real time or something, but at least for the JA2 remake they damn well should stick to classic and proven turn based!

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Re: Good news or not? Ja3 beeing developed by bitcomposer[message #272234] Wed, 02 February 2011 23:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
BigBadWolf is currently offline BigBadWolf

 
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I'm not sure if this is being posted in the right place, but it appears that BitComposer today released some info and pics of the new JA, which they are calling Jagged Alliance: Back in Action.

Game Info
http://www.strategyinformer.com/news/10800/jagged-alliance-back-in-action-announced

Screens
http://www.strategyinformer.com/pc/jaggedalliancebackinaction/screenshots.html

It also sounds like it has a more mixed play style, what they are calling "plan & go", kind of like UFO:Aftermath games. Could be interesting.

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Re: Good news or not? Ja3 beeing developed by bitcomposer[message #272281] Thu, 03 February 2011 06:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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 I admit that I like the screens, even though; they are not cutting edge (They described them to be more modern).

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Re: Good news or not? Ja3 beeing developed by bitcomposer[message #272467] Thu, 03 February 2011 21:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
BigBadWolf is currently offline BigBadWolf

 
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I agree with you, but I find the idea of "plan & go" to be an interesting inclusion, if it's done right. I must say that I find it gives a more "realistic" play style, and have enjoyed it in the UFO-series games. And it can certainly make the game more challenging, since you no longer have the ability to act without likely interference.

While it would be nice to have better eye candy, I can deal with the graphics being less than stellar if the gameplay is there.

Oh, and hopefully it will be moddable too.

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Re: Good news or not? Ja3 beeing developed by bitcomposer[message #272469] Thu, 03 February 2011 22:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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 I highly doubt it will be modifiable.

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Re: Good news or not? Ja3 beeing developed by bitcomposer[message #272541] Fri, 04 February 2011 12:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
lockie is currently offline lockie

 
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 Eventually the game will surface , then we can see whether it's any good or not , some will buy but I guess most will await the early reviews from The Pit members , so if the game is crap , down go bitcomposer .

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Re: Good news or not? Ja3 beeing developed by bitcomposer[message #283843] Sat, 18 June 2011 16:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
JP'TR is currently offline JP'TR

 
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 if bitcomposer goes down after they fail, u guys here should buy the license, i buy whatever u do with it, even it is just a 1.13 update. Razz

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Re: Good news or not? Ja3 beeing developed by bitcomposer[message #283854] Sat, 18 June 2011 20:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Decado2 is currently offline Decado2

 
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Part of me still can't believe these guys are doing a remake of a game and completely changing the combat system. There is no way it will be as good as the original. WTF are they thinking? How can this possibly appeal to more players?

Watching the E3 video it looks combersome and dull. If I want to play real-time with pause I'll play Company of Heroes or Dawn of War 2, where it is actually suits the game.

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Re: Good news or not? Ja3 beeing developed by bitcomposer[message #283877] Sun, 19 June 2011 01:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Slax is currently offline Slax

 
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 Canadians. They're the only people qualified to make JA3.

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Re: Good news or not? Ja3 beeing developed by bitcomposer[message #283950] Sun, 19 June 2011 18:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Shadow21 is currently offline Shadow21

 
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 but dont let bioware get their hands on it Razz

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Re: Good news or not? Ja3 beeing developed by bitcomposer[message #283978] Sun, 19 June 2011 20:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Peal is currently offline Peal

 
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 To be honest blizzard shoud do the Job, taking the time they need, improving JA3 as SC2 to SC1. 3D Graphics but the same flair.

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Re: Good news or not? Ja3 beeing developed by bitcomposer[message #283979] Sun, 19 June 2011 22:02 Go to previous message
Slax is currently offline Slax

 
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 No. No no no. NO! :mono:

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