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Re: Kaerar's Guns & Portraits[message #301637]

Tue, 13 March 2012 10:07

wolf00

Messages:1146
Registered:September 2006
Location: Czech Republic

xm-25 feed from banana like magazine... Wink

,mazbe im wrong but iov 926b5 have some from yours stuff inside
stuff inside

[Updated on: Tue, 13 March 2012 10:23] by Moderator

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Sergeant Major

Re: Kaerar's Guns & Portraits[message #301677]

Tue, 13 March 2012 15:26

Kaerar

Messages:2016
Registered:January 2003
Location: Australia :D

Yes you are right the in service XM25 actually does have curved mags (similar to the curve in 5.45 mags). However I'm not going to update the Mag pics yet as the current ones are perfectly suitable.

IoV does contain some of my work that is not in 1.13, but as a notice to all, I allow free use of all my work as long as it's not for profit or for a business without direct permission. So basically any and all JA2 mods have free use of any pics I make Wink

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Re: Kaerar's Guns & Portraits[message #301839]

Fri, 16 March 2012 13:48

wolf00

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Registered:September 2006
Location: Czech Republic

stock 5.56x45 magagizines from ja2 1.13 maybe need some rework ...

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Sergeant Major

Re: Kaerar's Guns & Portraits[message #302394]

Mon, 26 March 2012 00:06

Gambigobilla

Messages:690
Registered:July 2008

I have a personal request for all gun image artist. Please do draw scopes on sniper rifles. There are some Barett m82 images without scope and they are just ugly. My opinion is default attachments should be seen on gun image.

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First Sergeant

Re: Kaerar's Guns & Portraits[message #302411]

Mon, 26 March 2012 07:01

Kaerar

Messages:2016
Registered:January 2003
Location: Australia :D

I did do that a lot, however the system in JA2 means scopes change so having no scope seems more appropriate.

In some ways I wish it would composite images to allow the addons to be applied to the main image but that's a way away yet.

I did the M98B without a scope recently but adding one isn't too hard.

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Re: Kaerar's Guns & Portraits[message #302413]

Mon, 26 March 2012 07:20

Madd_Mugsy

Messages:626
Registered:July 2005
Location: Canada

It looked like some work has been done in the code to use PNG images instead of STIs. I've been wondering about the advantages and disadvantages of doing so. It's probably a lot of work to switch things over, and I'm not sure whether it would be something that could just be used for item images, or whether everything would have to be changed over.

Anyway, PNG allows transparency so images could conceivably be layered to show attachments, etc. Fields could be added to the Attachments table to indicate the images that would be used and the order in which they should be layered.

I'm currently working on a way to merge items and other xml data from one data folder to another in the XML editor (ie from data-aim to data-1.13). Switching to PNG would allow the graphics to be merged as well.

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First Sergeant

Re: Kaerar's Guns & Portraits[message #302414]

Mon, 26 March 2012 07:48

Wil473

Messages:2808
Registered:September 2004
Location: Canada

The PNG code works. There's a small program that converts STi to PNG. The only problem is that it became a bit problematic needing to run both STi (for the XML Editor) and then PNG for the game. Switched back to only STi after a while.

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Re: Kaerar's Guns & Portraits[message #302415]

Mon, 26 March 2012 08:08

Kaerar

Messages:2016
Registered:January 2003
Location: Australia :D

AFAIK the issues are that PNG aren't working on the paletted system used by STI's for MD etc...

To export all MD and SM images to non-STI format (PNG) and have them individual in folders would be ideal for detail and colour (as well as transparency if that's actually supported). Though I don't know how far that was taken in the project. Admittedly it's been a while since I was actively modding here, so still catching up.

The bigger issue is that guns aren't a set size so each image would need to either resize for the gun or be specially modded for the gun. With over 300 guns, I'm not looking forward to doing that Surprised

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Re: Kaerar's Guns & Portraits[message #302417]

Mon, 26 March 2012 08:19

Wil473

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Registered:September 2004
Location: Canada

I remember exporting the interfaces with BirdFlu's export utility, which seems to be part of the current distribution - ja2export.exe Even found the documentation in a text document sitting in the root JA2 directory, guess nobody moved it to the doc's folder.

EDIT: The same size? Are you talking about making every graphic the same size to support layered images for attachments? Couldn't we just have a new series of libraries for that feature, ie. a fourth graphic for each item that is used for layered items, but is otherwise unnecessary.

[Updated on: Mon, 26 March 2012 08:23] by Moderator

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Re: Kaerar's Guns & Portraits[message #302420]

Mon, 26 March 2012 08:52

Kaerar

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Registered:January 2003
Location: Australia :D

Possibly, but we would have to work out how big to have it and how big to make all the guns/attachments...

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Re: Kaerar's Guns & Portraits[message #302430]

Mon, 26 March 2012 19:21

Wil473

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Registered:September 2004
Location: Canada

Perhaps we're being a little bit ambitious here, as far as I know there has only been occasional talk about how attachments are indicated on the gun portraits that so far hasn't gone anywhere. As far as I know Birdflu did give us the ability to use PNG graphics for both Big and Interface images at least - I know because my own work used it for a while to avoid the palette limitations of stuffing all the mod specific graphics into P3Items (I've since given in and now use all the graphics libraries). I'd say we have a working feature in PNG support, just not the experience or tools to use it effectively yet. Now if the XML Editor supported the option to use PNG graphics, then there would be more recognition that this capability exists.

This isn't the only ignored feature in v1.13, I remember having to keep knowledge of the "real-exploding" ammunition alive for quite some time after it was added. On the Bear's Pit at least, knowledge of it only became widespread less than a year ago when Smeagol added exploding shotgun shells (not sure how well known it is in the German forums, possible it is better known there as the other proponent of this feature was The Scorpion). There's even youtube evidence of it now - someone doing a "let's play" series on UC-1.13 discovered the incendiary shells I put in that mod and was left speechless for a minute.

[Updated on: Mon, 26 March 2012 19:26] by Moderator

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Re: Kaerar's Guns & Portraits[message #302431]

Mon, 26 March 2012 19:27

DepressivesBrot

Messages:3641
Registered:July 2009

Maybe scorp knows it, but the Basis at large is somewhat behind the moon on most 1.13 issues.

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Re: Kaerar's Guns & Portraits[message #302434]

Mon, 26 March 2012 20:39

Wil473

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Registered:September 2004
Location: Canada

Having a few hours before work, I decided to try out the PNG support with my test install (rev 4915 from one of the SCI's). In the case of AFS v3.63, it is not the Interface or Tilesets\0 libraries that are the problem those work fine,the .exe is having issues with the BigItems graphics. Also this appears to be more advance than the last version of PNG support I tried, the exported files are pre-archived as .jpc.7z files. Perhaps I exported the BigItems incorrectly, but I don't have time to find out right now.

EDIT: I can mix STI and PNG files though, renamed the PNG BigItems folder and reactivated the original STI filled BigItems folder and the game works just fine.

[Updated on: Mon, 26 March 2012 20:45] by Moderator

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Re: Kaerar's Guns & Portraits[message #302468]

Tue, 27 March 2012 08:01

Kaerar

Messages:2016
Registered:January 2003
Location: Australia :D

Ah but does transparency work, that's the question, then we can do away with the whole square edge look for everything and have proper gradient edges to help with curved mags and Calico's XD

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Re: Kaerar's Guns & Portraits[message #302476]

Tue, 27 March 2012 10:22

Wil473

Messages:2808
Registered:September 2004
Location: Canada

Didn't get that far. I just tried exporting the stock Data-1.13 folder's BigItems, Interface, and Tilesets\0 getting the same crash. The .exe reads Interface and Tilesets just fine, just not BigItems. If anyone wants to take a look at this, I've got a screenshot of the runtime error and the PNG files here: http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?w6vlrsvtmr949mx

To recreate the runtime error, just replace the bigitems folder in your stock Data-1.13 with the PNG filled one, start a game and try to look at any large item graphic.

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Re: Kaerar's Guns & Portraits[message #310068]

Thu, 13 September 2012 10:44

wolf00

Messages:1146
Registered:September 2006
Location: Czech Republic

kaerar:please it is a posible make war weary guns [some scratches/rusted places on gun body]

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Re: Kaerar's Guns & Portraits[message #310078]

Thu, 13 September 2012 14:14

lockie

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Registered:February 2006
Location: Scotland

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Poster: wolf00
Subject: Re: Kaerar's Guns & Portraits

kaerar:please it is a posible make war weary guns [some scratches/rusted places on gun body]

Why ... I mean , what would possess someone to ask for an insignificant , cosmetic touch-up ... better yet , YOU spend some hours attempting to do whatever it is you desire , instead of taking up modders time needlessly !

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Re: Kaerar's Guns & Portraits[message #310165]

Fri, 14 September 2012 22:30

wolf00

Messages:1146
Registered:September 2006
Location: Czech Republic

ok sorry it is only a question...

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Sergeant Major

Re: Kaerar's Guns & Portraits[message #310168]

Sat, 15 September 2012 02:10

sorca_2

Messages:202
Registered:September 2010
Location: California, USA

Heh, maybe you just didn't know what you were asking for. It would require redoing all of the weapon images (a lot of tedious work). It might be nice to see the condition of all your items in the inventory screen without having to check them, but the inventory images are so small that you wouldn't be able to tell unless the damage was hideously exaggerated.

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Sergeant 1st Class

Re: Kaerar's Guns & Portraits[message #313948]

Sun, 06 January 2013 07:00

Kaerar

Messages:2016
Registered:January 2003
Location: Australia :D

As already stated that's a very big job for 300+ weapons Wink

Plus I've got my hands full on another project at the moment. TBH I'd be more interested in cutting down the number of guns to about 100-150 and helping with a High Resolution version of JA2 (still in 2D). But that would require a pretty massive re-write of the game Very Happy

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