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Re: MOST RELIABLE GUN FOR HIRE[message #38911]

Mon, 01 November 2004 14:01

CCKeane

Messages:98
Registered:September 2004
Location: Hoboken/Long Island

Check the death scene. Another possibility is that Grizzly refused to shoot Wolf, and it was recorded as a good relationship.

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Corporal 1st Class

Re: MOST RELIABLE GUN FOR HIRE[message #38912]

Mon, 01 November 2004 14:28

Khor1255

Messages:1815
Registered:August 2003
Location: Pleasantville, NJ

@ atman
There is a utility called Proedit that might answer all you're questions. Inside is a section called hidden relations or something like that that points at who likes/hates who and at what price.
Download Proedit and check it out.

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Sergeant Major

Re: MOST RELIABLE GUN FOR HIRE[message #38913]

Mon, 01 November 2004 18:17

AZAZEL

Messages:750
Registered:February 2004

Or just play with them enough.:)For example put Foxy and Grizzly right near a door.Save.Have Wolf lockpick the door,or kill an exiting ennemy and sometimes you'll hear Foxy's "Wolfy,your the best!" and Grizzly's "I knew there was something I like about Wolf",sometimes just one of them saying the line,sometimes no comment.Effective closeness(being side by side) between liking-eachother mercs is one of the key factors.

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First Sergeant

Re: MOST RELIABLE GUN FOR HIRE[message #38914]

Mon, 01 November 2004 18:31

jamotide

Messages:39
Registered:July 2002
Location: Germany

Quote:

Originally posted by Bane:
She may be pricey, but if you are only hiring one merc, you have plenty to spare. Her level goes up pretty fast, she usually is my second highest level merc after my IMP. Your comments about agility are accurate though, and if you don't subscribe to burst, then I guess she isn't for you.

Hm, I rarely ever let her use burst. In fact I didnt even know she had that special. Interesting. Her and Buzz are a good team. Raven takes out single targets from afar or in silence, and Buzz for backup if things get 'hairy'.

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Private 1st Class

Re: MOST RELIABLE GUN FOR HIRE[message #38915]

Mon, 01 November 2004 20:46

atman

Messages:8
Registered:October 2004
Location: Poland

Thanks

@Khor1255
Will Proedit work with WF? Well if not i'll later check it anyway with original.

@AZAZEL
I didn't realize closeness is important, since Ice quite often excites himself about Grizzly's actions, even at long distance. I'll have to try with others being close to each other.

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Private

Re: MOST RELIABLE GUN FOR HIRE[message #38916]

Tue, 02 November 2004 04:09

atman

Messages:8
Registered:October 2004
Location: Poland

I tried ProEdit with attached standard ja2 *.dat files. So, there's 'learn to like' factor, that's why mercs don't talk some lines in the begginning of the game! Smile

Another great 'hidden' feature, wonder how many of them i still don't know.
There are also 'appearance', 'hated nationality', 'sexist' values.
Does it mean some mercs later in the game start expressing something against some others, due to their nationality? Or sexist women against men?
And what does attractive appearance do?

Unfotunately, ProEdit doesn't seem to work with WF's IMP.dat file.

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Private

Re: MOST RELIABLE GUN FOR HIRE[message #38917]

Tue, 02 November 2004 06:04

Khor1255

Messages:1815
Registered:August 2003
Location: Pleasantville, NJ

I'm not sure how much the predjudices affect merc interactions in the actual game. A lot of features that were originally intended for Ja2 didn't make it into the final code. I don't know if these are among the features that got cut.
It may be my imagination but when a female merc is a babe she seems to wiggle a little bit during the walking animation. This may just be a byproduct of feminine depravation though.

I don't own WF so can't really answer you about that (retail stores here in the states don't carry it and I refuse to buy online). There is some tweaking you need in order to make Proedit work even in standard Ja2 so perhaps this is the case with wildfire? It would really blow if Proedit wasn't available for this mod.

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Sergeant Major

Re: MOST RELIABLE GUN FOR HIRE[message #38918]

Tue, 02 November 2004 10:54

atman

Messages:8
Registered:October 2004
Location: Poland

Yes, of course i changed WF's *.dat file names to make them look like these from UB, but it seems to work only for 'ready made' characters, mercs&npcs.
The file containing my imp char. data doesn't display correctly in proedit.

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Private

Re: MOST RELIABLE GUN FOR HIRE[message #38919]

Wed, 10 November 2004 05:10

Pan Misio

Messages:1
Registered:November 2004

I know it may sound strange, but I have to say it...

MIKE

YES, the best merc is Mike, doesn't matter which side he takes. I missed Mike in JA2. He was expensive as hell, but I'd give any price for him. I liked his attitude don't even mentioning skills. I was really upset when I had to kill him.

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Civilian

Re: MOST RELIABLE GUN FOR HIRE[message #38920]

Wed, 10 November 2004 06:36

Rev1

Messages:203
Registered:October 2002
Location: Louisville, KY

Just curious, was Mike's voice from JA1 the same as in JA2?

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Sergeant 1st Class

Re: MOST RELIABLE GUN FOR HIRE[message #38921]

Wed, 17 November 2004 04:28

Danirijeka

Messages:45
Registered:November 2004
Location: Levico Terme, Italy

Personally I like Ivan very much even if I would need a translator to understand what he is saying sometimes! :wb: Lynx and Trevor are among my favorite mercs too.

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Corporal

Re: MOST RELIABLE GUN FOR HIRE[message #38922]

Thu, 02 December 2004 03:08

Cagemonkey

Messages:276
Registered:December 2001
Location: Sweden

Wolf is always on my team too, he

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Master Sergeant

Re: MOST RELIABLE GUN FOR HIRE[message #38923]

Thu, 02 December 2004 20:06

AZAZEL

Messages:750
Registered:February 2004

Anyone else noticed what Wolf says when his buddy Lynx dies?
How can he :headscratch: "miss NOT having Lynx around" when he saved his...Fox-liked part?

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First Sergeant