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| Re: UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Discussion 2 (2011/04/18 to 2011/--/--)[message #287912]
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Fri, 29 July 2011 17:26  
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| Hazapuza |
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wil4739x39mm recoil - those values are based on those found in stock v1.13 (multiplied by 1.75, and in next patch by 1.25), so if there is a difference, that's the source.
I haven't played base 1.13 for the last year or so and IIRC never saw the AK-9 back then. My bad. The question still stands though, to whoever made the gun.
Bullpups usually tend to be mechanically more complex (harder to repair, maintain and field strip) than "traditional" designs, and handling is sometimes more awkward (especially reloading) plus the weight is often centered close to the magazine, behind your hands. But they are usually shorter, so lower draw is justified. BTW, what's the handling stat?
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| Re: UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Discussion 2 (2011/04/18 to 2011/--/--)[message #287932]
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Fri, 29 July 2011 19:29
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wil473: And what about SCAR-L SV? It is DMR as well. BTW, did you also increase accuracy of LWRC chambered 5.45 ammo? It should benefit from heavy barrel as well, imho.
BTW, are there any plans for SCAR with medium length of barrel? I guess that it would be too much.
Just an idea. As ACR has toolkit to quickly change calibers, what if SCAR had same feature but to switch lengths?
Also, guns with adjustable stocks should benefit from better comfort which bull-pup guns lack due to impossibility to do such adjustments (at least I've never seen bull-pup with adjustable butt-stock)
Regarding installer. Well, I install JA2, then I install 1.13 and then I decide which mod to install.
Therefore, for me it makes sense to have installers of JA2 1.13 and mods separated.
Also, when you release some update, it is nonsense to download installer (which is actually ~450MB) containing whole 1.13 again.
So, my suggestion would be to build installers only for milestones (like 3.50 and 3.55) with significant structural changes (that would also require you to perform those changes only in certain cycle), and then just release patches or SFX archives which would users unpack over installed stuff.
If same procedure is chosen by JA 2 1.13 devs and other modders and there is synchronized release, creation of one big installer for all of those things is possible as well. But creation of it would require some time as there are many possible issues and testing is needed as well.
It would be rather large download, though (despite usage of LZMA solid compression - one of best and fastest to unpack).
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Corporal
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| Re: UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Discussion 2 (2011/04/18 to 2011/--/--)[message #287953]
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Fri, 29 July 2011 23:58
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| Rodelero |
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Thanks.
I'll rebuild installer. For those, who already have 3.55, just place MAPS into Profiles\UserProfile_JA2UC113.
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| Re: UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Discussion 2 (2011/04/18 to 2011/--/--)[message #287954]
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Sat, 30 July 2011 00:31
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| Wil473 |
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Groza Calibre Conversion - I'll check to make sure the mergers are in place before locking down for v3.56.
AK-9 - on reflection, I'm not sure what I based that one on. It should be closer to the AK-103 in most stats; 9x39mm is based on the 7.62x39mm, which should give it (relative to the AK-103), lower range and damage, more or less the same recoil, lower sound levels.
LWRC 5.45 - is not a A4 variant, so it is only an AR instead of an autorifle. Last time I looked, LWRC's site indicates they only make M6A4's in 5.56mm and 6.8mm SPC. The M6-AK 5.45 only comes as an upper receiver.
SCAR's - each of the SCAR candidates ended up filling a different niche. The FN SCAR, due to having the graphics available has a parts kit for each variant supported in game (CQC and SV). The XCR's have no convertibility, but cover the full size AR side of things. The ACR is bought with built-in calibre conversion, but is similarly stuck as a full size AR.
Fully Adjustable Folding Stocks - there should be additional stats, similar if to those for the AR-15 Precision Stock, on SCAR, ACR and Skorpion EVO III variants with the stock extended. At least that was the plan.
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| Re: UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Discussion 2 (2011/04/18 to 2011/--/--)[message #287973]
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Sat, 30 July 2011 11:45
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Just notice regarding AS VAL.
See this pic:
http://world.guns.ru/userfiles/images/assault/as10/as_val3.jpg
It has damn short barrel. I think, that it should be rather short ranged and had low accuracy.
Same for Vintorez, which is IMHO just AS VAL with scope.
I'm uploading rebuilt 3.55 installer.
AEK-97x is more accurate than Abakan. I think, that that's incorrect. Abakan is more accurate. AEK has advantage with lower recoil in full auto.
Regarding SCAR, yes, I know. I just thought, that it would be nice if it was possible to make SCAR convertible barrel length-wise as is ACR calibre-wise.
You would be able to change SCAR caliber by toolkits which are now avaiable, but length of the barrel would be changed in same manner as caliber is changed in ACR.
I can make missing icons (if I knoew how to edit those files, but I can search for guide). All what is needed is to shorten barrel of SV variant and you have normal variant.
See:
http://world.guns.ru/userfiles/images/assault/as70/scar-h_all.jpg
http://world.guns.ru/userfiles/images/assault/as70/scar-l_all.jpg
So, I would need 3 pictures per caliber (I think, that normal variant should be default to be shown in Bobby Rays) for L and H and 3 pics for WP and SPC ammo, right?
EDIT: I'm done with icons.
BTW, why are AT rockets, RPG-7 and grenades not available in Bobby Rays?
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| Re: UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Discussion 2 (2011/04/18 to 2011/--/--)[message #287977]
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Sat, 30 July 2011 16:24
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| Hazapuza |
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Uh, what's that map pack ShadoWarrior posted?
Edit: Does the AN-94 have the nonexistent burst-penalty (or recoil in this case) under the NCTH?
[Updated on: Sat, 30 July 2011 16:27] by Moderator Report message to a moderator
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Master Sergeant
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| Re: UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Discussion 2 (2011/04/18 to 2011/07/30)[message #288004]
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Sat, 30 July 2011 23:17
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| Wil473 |
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SAM Coverage is as it is in the stock game. I'm not going to call SAM coverage weird, instead it is the way it is for "game purposes" and leave it at that. If necessary, just imagine some geographical or equipment reasons to account for the odd shapes involved with coverage.
v3.56 patch is up, and I'm shutting down this thread as we're past the usual 10 page limit. Since there is a sub-forum now, I'll be creating two threads for UC-1.13, one for Bug Reports, the other one for General Discussion on UC-1.13. When the other mods (AFS and DL-1.13 v3.00) are out, I'll add threads for them as well.
Current UC-1.13 Discussion Thread
Current UC-1.13 Bug Reports Thread
UC-1.13 FAQ and Spoilers
[Updated on: Sun, 31 July 2011 00:10] by Moderator Report message to a moderator
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